Idea, the, prior to the reality, Phaedo 75:—idea of beauty, Euthyd. 301 A :—idea of good the source of truth, Rep. 6. 508 (cp. 505); a cause like the sun, ib. 6. 508 ; 7. 516, 517; must be apprehended by the lover of knowledge, ib. 7. 534 (cp. Phil.. 65 foil. ; Laws 12. 965) :—doctrine of ideas, Lysis 217 foil.; innate ideas, Euthyd. 296; recollection of ideas, Meno 81, 86 ; Phaedo 75; Phaedr. 249 (cp. Recollection); ideas and names, Crat. 389; existence of ideas, ib. 439 ; knowledge (…)
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Jowett / Benjamin Jowett
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Jowett: ideas
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Jowett: arithmetician
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroSoc. And he will be the arithmetician ? ION
Socrates : And this will be the man who knows — the arithmetician ? ALCIBIADES I
Soc. Having the use of the art, the arithmetician, if I am not mistaken, has the conceptions of number under his hand, and can transmit them to another. THEAETETUS
Soc. Attend to what follows : must not the perfect arithmetician know all numbers, for he has the science of all numbers in his mind ? THEAETETUS
Soc. That was my reason for asking how we ought to (…) -
Jowett: abuse
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroSocrates : But perhaps, my excellent friend, some person who is wiser than either you or I may say we are wrong to be so free with our abuse of ignorance, [143c] unless we can add that it is ignorance of certain things, and is a good to certain persons in certain conditions, as to those others it is an evil. ALCIBIADES II
Gor. A marvel, indeed, Socrates, if you only knew how rhetoric comprehends and holds under her sway all the inferior arts. Let me offer you a striking example of this. On (…) -
Jowett: calculation
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroSocrates : Shall we, then, assume this also, [367b] that there is such a person as a man who is false about calculation and number ? LESSER HIPPIAS
Socrates : Who, then, becomes false in respect to calculation, Hippias, other than the good man ? For the same man is also powerful and he is also true. LESSER HIPPIAS
When Protagoras heard me say this, he replied : You ask questions fairly, and I like to answer a question which is fairly put. If Hippocrates comes to me he will not experience (…) -
Jowett: Academy
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroI was going from the Academy straight to the Lyceum, intending to take the outer road, which is close under the wall. When I came to the postern gate of the city, which is by the fountain of Panops, I fell in with Hippothales, the son of Hieronymus, and Ctesippus the Paeanian, and a company of young men who were standing with them. Hippothales, seeing me approach, asked whence I came and whither I was going. LYSIS
I am going, I replied, from the Academy straight to the Lyceum. LYSIS -
Jowett: calculate
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroSomeone will say : And are you not ashamed, Socrates, of a course of life which is likely to bring you to an untimely end ? To him I may fairly answer : There you are mistaken : a man who is good for anything ought not to calculate the chance of living or dying ; he ought only to consider whether in doing anything he is doing right or wrong — acting the part of a good man or of a bad. Whereas, according to your view, the heroes who fell at Troy were not good for much, and the son of Thetis (…)
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Jowett: accident
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroFor he who does well is the good man, and he who does ill is the bad. But what sort of doing is good in letters ? and what sort of doing makes a man good in letters ? Clearly the knowing of them. And what sort of well-doing makes a man a good physician ? Clearly the knowledge of the art of healing the sick. "But he who does ill is the bad." Now who becomes a bad physician ? Clearly he who is in the first place a physician, and in the second place a good physician ; for he may become a bad (…)
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Jowett: calculating
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroAth. To consecrate every sort of dance or melody. First we should ordain festivals — calculating for the year what they ought to be, and at what time, and in honour of what Gods, sons of Gods, and heroes they ought to be celebrated ; and, in the next place, what hymns ought to be sung at the several sacrifices, and with what dances the particular festival is to be honoured. This has to be arranged at first by certain persons, and, when arranged, the whole assembly of the citizens are to (…)
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Jowett: essence
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroSocrates : That suffices, Hippias ; for even this is welcome, since it appears that some things are so and some are not so. For I said, if you remember the beginning of this discussion, [302c] that pleasure through sight and through hearing were beautiful, not by that by which each of them was so affected as to be beautiful, but not both, nor both but not each, but by that by which both and each were so affected, because you conceded that both and each were beautiful. For this reason I (…)
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Jowett: happiness
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de Castroeudaimonia
Well then, I shall say, if you agree so far, be so good as to answer me a question : Do not the same magnitudes appear larger to your sight when near, and smaller when at a distance ? They will acknowledge that. And the same holds of thickness and number ; also sounds, which are in themselves equal, are greater when near, and lesser when at a distance. They will grant that also. Now suppose happiness to consist in doing or choosing the greater, and in not doing or in avoiding (…) -
Jowett: power of the soul
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroSocrates : Then injustice is a power of the soul, the more powerful soul is the more just, is it not ? For we found, my friend, that such a soul was better. LESSER HIPPIAS
Ath. Nearly all of them, my friends, seem to be ignorant of the nature and power of the soul, especially in what relates to her origin : they do not know that she is among the first of things, and before all bodies, and is the chief author of their changes and transpositions. And if this is true, and if the soul is older (…) -
Jowett: be happy
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de Castrohappiness
Socrates : Then it is impossible to be happy if one is not temperate and good. ALCIBIADES I
Socrates : So it is not walls or warships or arsenals that cities need, Alcibiades, if they are to be happy, nor numbers, nor size, without virtue. ALCIBIADES I
[134e] Socrates : Well now, if you act in this way, I am ready to warrant that you must be happy. ALCIBIADES I
Socrates : Then it is not despotic power, my admirable Alcibiades, that you ought to secure either to yourself or (…) -
Jowett: good soul
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de Castro[376b] Socrates : Is not, then, a good man he who has a good soul, and a bad man he who has a bad one ? LESSER HIPPIAS
Socrates : It is, then, in the nature of the good man to do injustice voluntarily, and of the bad man to do it involuntarily, that is, if the good man has a good soul. LESSER HIPPIAS
Soc. And what would you say of the soul ? Will the good soul be that in which disorder is prevalent, or that in which there is harmony and order ? GORGIAS
Soc. Then I shall proceed to add, (…) -
Jowett: Pleasure
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Pleasure, sometimes defined as knowledge, Rep. 6. 505 B ; = the good, Phil. 11, 60 A (cp. Protag. 358; Gorg. 495 foil.; Rep. 6. 505 B);—nature of pleasure, Tim. 64 ; pleasure a replenishment, Phil. 31 B, 42 D ;—pleasure not akin to virtue, Rep. 3. 402 E; a motion of the soul, ib. 9. 583 E; not the object of music, Tim. 47 E ; Laws 2. 655 D, 668 A ; 3. 700 E (but cp. Laws 2. 658 E; 7. 802 D); ’ the greatest incitement of evil,’ Tim. 69 D; varieties of, Phil. 12; how far one, ibid.; (…) -
Jowett: bad soul
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroSocrates : Will not, then, the more powerful and better soul, when it does injustice, do it voluntarily, and the bad soul involuntarily ? LESSER HIPPIAS
Soc. Then I shall proceed to add, that if the, temperate soul is the good soul, the soul which is in the opposite condition, that is, the foolish and intemperate, is the bad soul. Very true. GORGIAS
Ath. We were saying, if I remember rightly, that the sixty-year-old choristers of Dionysus were to be specially quick in their perceptions (…) -
Jowett: pleasures
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de Castro[407b] "Whither haste ye, O men ? Yea, verily ye know not that ye are doing none of the things ye ought, seeing that ye spend your whole energy on wealth and the acquiring of it ; while as to your sons to whom ye will bequeath it, ye neglect to ensure that they shall understand how to use it justly, and ye find for them no teachers of justice, if so be that it is teachable — or if it be a matter of training and practice, instructors who can efficiently practice and train them — nor have ye (…)
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Jowett: wiser soul
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroSocrates : And what if it be knowledge ? Is not the wiser soul more just, and the more ignorant more unjust ? LESSER HIPPIAS
Socrates : This more powerful and wiser soul, then, was found to be better and to have more power to do both good and disgraceful acts in every kind of action was it not ? LESSER HIPPIAS -
Jowett: pleasure and pain
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroAth. I am glad to hear that you agree with me ; for, indeed, the discipline of pleasure and pain which, when rightly ordered, is a principle of education, has been often relaxed and corrupted in human life. And the Gods, pitying the toils which our race is born to undergo, have appointed holy festivals, wherein men alternate rest with labour ; and have given them the Muses and Apollo, the leader of the Muses, and Dionysus, to be companions in their revels, that they may improve their (…)
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Jowett: soul (Symposium, Phaedrus, The Republic, Phaedo)
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroAnd am I not right in asserting that there are two goddesses ? The elder one, having no mother, who is called the heavenly Aphrodite — she is the daughter of Uranus ; the younger, who is the daughter of Zeus and Dione — her we call common ; and the Love who is her fellow-worker is rightly named common, as the other love is called heavenly. All the gods ought to have praise given to them, but not without distinction of their natures ; and therefore I must try to distinguish the characters of (…)
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Jowett: true pleasure
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroSoc. Why, no, I would rather use them as a sort of diviners, who divine the truth, not by rules of art, but by an instinctive repugnance and extreme detestation which a noble nature has of the power of pleasure, in which they think that there is nothing sound, and her seductive influence is declared by them to be witchcraft, and not pleasure. This is the use which you may make of them. And when you have considered the various grounds of their dislike, you shall hear from me what I deem to be (…)