So this is the message, it seems, of the Delphic inscription — that one is to practise temperance and justice. LOVERS
Then that whereby we know how to punish rightly [138b] is justice, and that whereby we know how to distinguish our own and others’ quality is temperance ? LOVERS
Then justice and temperance are the same thing ? LOVERS
Hence they are all the same, it seems, — king, despot, statesman, house-manager, master, and the temperate man and the just man ; and it is all one art, — (…)
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Jowett: temperance
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Jowett: mystic
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroFinally, they exhort him to think of justice first, and of life and children afterwards. He may now depart in peace and innocence, a sufferer and not a doer of evil. But if he breaks agreements, and returns evil for evil, they will be angry with him while he lives ; and their brethren, the laws of the world below, will receive him as an enemy. Such is the mystic voice which is always murmuring in his ears. CRITO
This is the voice which I seem to hear murmuring in my ears, like the sound of (…) -
Jowett: opposite of the truth
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroStr. Again, false opinion is that form of opinion which thinks the opposite of the truth : — You would assent ? SOPHIST Now when the Creator had framed the soul according to his will, he formed within her the corporeal universe, and brought the two together, and united them centre to centre. The soul, interfused everywhere from the centre to the circumference of heaven, of which also she is the external envelopment, herself turning in herself, began a divine beginning of never ceasing and (…)
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Jowett: myth
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroThat I will, Socrates, and gladly. But what would you like ? Shall I, as an elder, speak to you as younger men in an apologue or myth, or shall I argue out the question ? PROTAGORAS
Well, then, he said, I think that the myth will be more interesting. PROTAGORAS
Soc. The divine madness was subdivided into four kinds, prophetic, initiatory, poetic, erotic, having four gods presiding over them ; the first was the inspiration of Apollo, the second that of Dionysus, the third that of the (…) -
Jowett: abstract
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroFor those who suppose all things to be in motion conceive the greater part of nature to be a mere receptacle ; and they say that there is a penetrating power which passes through all this, and is the instrument of creation in all, and is the subtlest and swiftest element ; for if it were not the subtlest, and a power which none can keep out, and also the swiftest, passing by other things as if they were standing still, it could not penetrate through the moving universe. And this element, (…)
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Jowett: mythology
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroIn the days of old the gods had the whole earth distributed among them by allotment. There was no quarrelling ; for you cannot rightly suppose that the gods did not know what was proper for each of them to have, or, knowing this, that they would seek to procure for themselves by contention that which more properly belonged to others. They all of them by just apportionment obtained what they wanted, and peopled their own districts ; and when they had peopled them they tended us, their (…)
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Jowett: abstraction
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroFor those who suppose all things to be in motion conceive the greater part of nature to be a mere receptacle ; and they say that there is a penetrating power which passes through all this, and is the instrument of creation in all, and is the subtlest and swiftest element ; for if it were not the subtlest, and a power which none can keep out, and also the swiftest, passing by other things as if they were standing still, it could not penetrate through the moving universe. And this element, (…)
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Jowett: mythus
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroStr. As if we had been children, to whom they repeated each his own mythus or story ; — one said that there were three principles, and that at one time there was war between certain of them ; and then again there was peace, and they were married and begat children, and brought them up ; and another spoke of two principles, — a moist and a dry, or a hot and a cold, and made them marry and cohabit. The Eleatics, however, in our part of the world, say that things are many in name, but in nature (…)
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Jowett: concrete
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroThe reason why I say this is that I want you to agree with me in thinking, not only that absolute greatness will never be great and also small, but that greatness in us or in the concrete will never admit the small or admit of being exceeded : instead of this, one of two things will happen — either the greater will fly or retire before the opposite, which is the less, or at the advance of the less will cease to exist ; but will not, if allowing or admitting smallness, be changed by that ; (…)
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Jowett: non-existence
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroOf their existence or of their non-existence ? EUTHYDEMUS
Soc. Well, you have delivered yourself of a very important doctrine about knowledge ; it is indeed the opinion of Protagoras, who has another way of expressing it, Man, he says, is the measure of all things, of the existence of things that are, and of the non-existence of things that are not : — You have read him ? THEAETETUS
Soc. Why, my dear boy, you are young, and therefore your ear is quickly caught and your mind influenced by (…) -
Jowett: concretions
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroSoc. If I am not mistaken, I have often repeated that pains and aches and suffering and uneasiness of all sorts arise out of a corruption of nature caused by concretions, and dissolutions, and repletions, and evacuations, and also by growth and decay ? PHILEBUS
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Jowett: non-existent
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroOf course, he replied, I and all the world are in a difficulty about the non-existent. EUTHYDEMUS
Then, said Socrates, he desires that what he has at present may be preserved to him in the future, which is equivalent to saying that he desires something which is non-existent to him, and which as yet he has not got. SYMPOSIUM
Str. Then not-being necessarily exists in the case of motion and of every class ; for the nature of the other entering into them all, makes each of them other than (…) -
Jowett: Science of Ideas
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroSome God, as it seems plain to me, is preparing for you good fortune in a gracious and bountiful way, if only you accept it with grace. For you dwell near together as neighbors in close association [6.322d] so that you can help one another in the things of greatest importance. For Hermeias will find in his multitude of horses or of other military equipment, or even in the gaining of gold itself, no greater source of power for all purposes than in the gaining of steadfast friends possessed of (…)
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Jowett: number
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroNumber, said to have been invented by Palamedes, Rep. 7. 522 D (cp. Laws 3. 677 D); number and being, Parm. 144 :—the number of the State, Rep. 8. 546;— number of the citizens, Laws 5. 737. 738; 6- 77i; 9- 877 D;— number of families, not to change, ib. 5. 740:—puzzles caused by numbers, Phaedo 96 E, 101 D : —the odd numbers sacred to the Gods above, the even to those below, Laws 4. 717 A. Socrates : Is the false man, then, false about other things, but not about number, and would he not (…)
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Jowett: absolute ideas
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroThen may we not say, Simmias, that if, as we are always repeating, there is an absolute beauty, and goodness, and essence in general, and to this, which is now discovered to be a previous condition of our being, we refer all our sensations, and with this compare them — assuming this to have a prior existence, then our souls must have had a prior existence, but if not, there would be no force in the argument ? There can be no doubt that if these absolute ideas existed before we were born, (…)
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Jowett: nurture
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroCr. Fear not. There are persons who at no great cost are willing to save you and bring you out of prison ; and as for the informers, you may observe that they are far from being exorbitant in their demands ; a little money will satisfy them. My means, which, as I am sure, are ample, are at your service, and if you have a scruple about spending all mine, here are strangers who will give you the use of theirs ; and one of them, Simmias the Theban, has brought a sum of money for this very (…)
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Jowett: higher ideas
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroThus far I have been speaking of the fourth and last kind of madness, which is imputed to him who, when he sees the beauty of earth, is transported with the recollection of the true beauty ; he would like to fly away, but he cannot ; he is like a bird fluttering and looking upward and careless of the world below ; and he is therefore thought to be mad. And I have shown this of all inspirations to be the noblest and highest and the offspring of the highest to him who has or shares in it, and (…)
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Jowett: arithmetic
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroSoc. And yet surely, my dear friend Ion, in a discussion about arithmetic, where many people are speaking, and one speaks better than the rest, there is somebody who can judge which of them is the good speaker ? ION
Soc. Yes, surely ; for if the subject of knowledge were the same, there would be no meaning in saying that the arts were different, — if they both gave the same knowledge. For example, I know that here are five fingers, and you know the same. And if I were to ask whether I and (…) -
Jowett: ideas themselves
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroI understand, said Socrates, and quite accept your account. But tell me, Zeno, do you not further think that there is an idea of likeness in itself, and another idea of unlikeness, which is the opposite of likeness, and that in these two, you and I and all other things to which we apply the term many, participate — things which participate in likeness become in that degree and manner like ; and so far as they participate in unlikeness become in that degree unlike, or both like and unlike in (…)
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Jowett: arithmetical
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroSocrates : Tell me, then, Hippias, are you not skillful in arithmetical calculations ? LESSER HIPPIAS
Theaet. You are thinking of being and not being, likeness and unlikeness, sameness and difference, and also of unity and other numbers which are applied to objects of sense ; and you mean to ask, through what bodily organ the soul perceives odd and even numbers and other arithmetical conceptions. THEAETETUS
Ath. All freemen, I conceive, should learn as much of these branches of knowledge (…)