I proceeded : Is not a Sophist, Hippocrates, one who deals wholesale or retail in the food of the soul ? To me that appears to be his nature. PROTAGORAS And what, Socrates, is the food of the soul ? PROTAGORAS Surely, I said, knowledge is the food of the soul ; and we must take care, my friend, that the Sophist does not deceive us when he praises what he sells, like the dealers wholesale or retail who sell the food of the body ; for they praise indiscriminately all their goods, without (…)
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Jowett: food of the soul
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Jowett: natural pleasure
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroAth. There seems to be a difficulty, Stranger, with regard to states, in making words and facts coincide so that there can be no dispute about them. As in the human body, the regimen which does good in one way does harm in another ; and we can hardly say that any one course of treatment is adapted to a particular constitution. Now the gymnasia and common meals do a great deal of good, and yet they are a source of evil in civil troubles ; as is shown in the case of the Milesian, and Boeotian, (…)
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Jowett: physician of the soul
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroSurely, I said, knowledge is the food of the soul ; and we must take care, my friend, that the Sophist does not deceive us when he praises what he sells, like the dealers wholesale or retail who sell the food of the body ; for they praise indiscriminately all their goods, without knowing what are really beneficial or hurtful : neither do their customers know, with the exception of any trainer or physician who may happen to buy of them. In like manner those who carry about the wares of (…)
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Jowett: pain of pleasure
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroLook at the other class of pleasures which have no antecedent pains and you will no longer suppose, as you perhaps may at present, that pleasure is only the cessation of pain, or pain of pleasure. THE REPUBLIC BOOK IX
Let us not, then, be induced to believe that pure pleasure is the cessation of pain, or pain of pleasure. THE REPUBLIC BOOK IX -
Jowett: state of the soul
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroNay, Socrates, he replied, you are mistaken in your remembrance of what was said by me. When you asked me, I certainly did say that the courageous are the confident ; but I was never asked whether the confident are the courageous ; if you had asked me, I should have answered "Not all of them" : and what I did answer you have not proved to be false, although you proceeded to show that those who have knowledge are more courageous than they were before they had knowledge, and more courageous (…)
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Jowett: greatest pleasure
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroSoc. And justice, if the best, gives the greatest pleasure or advantage or both ? GORGIAS
And so we walked, and talked of the discourses on love ; and therefore, as I said at first, I am not ill-prepared to comply with your request, and will have another rehearsal of them if you like. For to speak or to hear others speak of philosophy always gives me the greatest pleasure, to say nothing of the profit. But when I hear another strain, especially that of you rich men and traders, such (…) -
Jowett: improvement of the soul
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroStrange, indeed, would be my conduct, O men of Athens, if I who, when I was ordered by the generals whom you chose to command me at Potidaea and Amphipolis and Delium, remained where they placed me, like any other man, facing death ; if, I say, now, when, as I conceive and imagine, God orders me to fulfil the philosopher’s mission of searching into myself and other men, I were to desert my post through fear of death, or any other fear ; that would indeed be strange, and I might justly be (…)
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Jowett: kinds of pleasure
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroPro. That is a very serious question, Philebus, to which Socrates has ingeniously brought us round, and please to consider which of us shall answer him ; there may be something ridiculous in my being unable to answer, and therefore imposing the task upon you, when I have undertaken the whole charge of the argument, but if neither of us were able to answer, the result methinks would be still more ridiculous. Let us consider, then, what we are to do : — Socrates, if I understood him rightly, (…)
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Jowett: evil of the soul
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroSoc. And which of the evils is the most disgraceful ? — Is not the most disgraceful of them injustice, and in general the evil of the soul ? GORGIAS
Soc. Then, if, as you would argue, not more painful, the evil of the soul is of all evils the most disgraceful ; and the excess of disgrace must be caused by some preternatural greatness, or extraordinary hurtfulness of the evil. GORGIAS
Soc. Because I am sure that if you agree with me in any of the opinions which my soul forms, I have at (…) -
Jowett: pleasure or pain
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroYet the exchange of one fear or pleasure or pain for another fear or pleasure or pain, which are measured like coins, the greater with the less, is not the exchange of virtue. O my dear Simmias, is there not one true coin for which all things ought to exchange ? — and that is wisdom ; and only in exchange for this, and in company with this, is anything truly bought or sold, whether courage or temperance or justice. And is not all true virtue the companion of wisdom, no matter what fears or (…)
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Jowett: part of the soul
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de Castro[133c] Socrates : And can we find any part of the soul that we can call more divine than this, which is the seat of knowledge and thought ? ALCIBIADES I
Who knows if life be not death and death life ; and that we are very likely dead ; I have heard a philosopher say that at this moment we are actually dead, and that the body (soma) is our tomb (sema), and that the part of the soul which is the seat of the desires is liable to be tossed about by words and blown up and down ; and some (…) -
Jowett: excess of pleasure
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroPro. I understand you, and see that there is a great difference between them ; the temperate are restrained by the wise man’s aphorism of "Never too much," which is their rule, but excess of pleasure possessing the minds of fools and wantons becomes madness and makes them shout with delight. PHILEBUS
I perceive, I said, that you have or have had experiences of this sort, and I agree. But let me ask you another question : Has excess of pleasure any affinity to temperance ? THE REPUBLIC BOOK III -
Jowett: body or soul
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroAnd in all that concerns either body or soul, swiftness and activity are clearly better than slowness and quietness ? CHARMIDES
Soc. Listen to me, then, while I recapitulate the argument : — Is the pleasant the same as the good ? Not the same. Callicles and I are agreed about that. And is the pleasant to be pursued for the sake of the good ? or the good for the sake of the pleasant ? The pleasant is to be pursued for the sake of the good. And that is pleasant at the presence of which we (…) -
Jowett: pleasure nor pain
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroPro. Why then, Socrates, I should suppose that there would be neither pleasure nor pain. PHILEBUS
Soc. Then he who chooses thus, would choose generation and destruction rather than that third sort of life, in which, as we were saying, was neither pleasure nor pain, but only the purest possible thought. PHILEBUS
Ath. Enough of laws relating to education and learning. But hunting and similar pursuits in like manner claim our attention. For the legislator appears to have a duty imposed upon (…) -
Jowett: temperate soul
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroSoc. Listen to me, then, while I recapitulate the argument : — Is the pleasant the same as the good ? Not the same. Callicles and I are agreed about that. And is the pleasant to be pursued for the sake of the good ? or the good for the sake of the pleasant ? The pleasant is to be pursued for the sake of the good. And that is pleasant at the presence of which we are pleased, and that is good at the presence of which we are good ? To be sure. And we — good, and all good things whatever are (…)
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Jowett: pleasure and amusement
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroNow Atlas had a numerous and honourable family, and they retained the kingdom, the eldest son handing it on to his eldest for many generations ; and they had such an amount of wealth as was never before possessed by kings and potentates, and is not likely ever to be again, and they were furnished with everything which they needed, both in the city and country. For because of the greatness of their empire many things were brought to them from foreign countries, and the island itself provided (…)
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Jowett: soul and body
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroSoc. And now I will endeavour to explain to you more clearly what I mean : The soul and body being two, have two arts corresponding to them : there is the art of politics attending on the soul ; and another art attending on the body, of which I know no single name, but which may be described as having two divisions, one of them gymnastic, and the other medicine. And in politics there is a legislative part, which answers to gymnastic, as justice does to medicine ; and the two parts run into (…)
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Jowett: pleasure
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroEnough has now been said of divine matters, both as touching the practices which men ought to follow, and as to the sort of persons who they ought severally to be. But of human things we have not as yet spoken, and we must ; for to men we are discoursing and not to Gods. Pleasures and pains and desires are a part of human nature, and on them every mortal being must of necessity hang and depend with the most eager interest. And therefore we must praise the noblest life, not only as the (…)
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Jowett: soul of man
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroSoc. Some of them were priests and priestesses, who had studied how they might be able to give a reason of their profession : there, have been poets also, who spoke of these things by inspiration, like Pindar, and many others who were inspired. And they say — mark, now, and see whether their words are true — they say that the soul of man is immortal, and at one time has an end, which is termed dying, and at another time is born again, but is never destroyed. And the moral is, that a man (…)
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Jowett: sense of pleasure
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroSoc. I want to know whether any one of us would consent to live, having wisdom and mind and knowledge and memory of all things, but having no sense of pleasure or pain, and wholly unaffected by these and the like feelings ? PHILEBUS
Ath. We will suppose that he knows the good to be good, and the bad to be bad, and makes use of them accordingly : which now is the better trained in dancing and music — he who is able to move his body and to use his voice in what is understood to be the right (…)