Against these arguments and others of a like kind, exceedingly numerous and couched in exceedingly noble language, showing that virtue can be taught and that a man should care above all else for himself, I have hardly uttered a word up till now, nor do I suppose that I ever shall utter a word against them [408c] in the future, for I regard them as most valuable admonitions and most useful, literally capable of waking us up, as it were, out of our slumber. So I gave my attention with a view (…)
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Jowett / Benjamin Jowett
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Jowett: waking
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Jowett: man of sense
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroAn art which converts a man of sense into a fool, GORGIAS
Soc. Nay, not to a man of sense, as the argument shows : do you think that all our cares should be directed to prolonging life to the uttermost, and to the study of those arts which secure us from danger always ; like that art of rhetoric which saves men in courts of law, and which you advise me to cultivate ? GORGIAS
Soc. Nor can we reasonably say, Cratylus, that there is knowledge at all, if everything is in a state of (…) -
Jowett: vulgarity
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroWherefore let us suppose this "high argument" of ours to address us in the following terms : — Best of men, cease not to honour according to nature similarity and equality and sameness and agreement, as regards number and every good and noble quality. And, above all, observe the aforesaid number 5040 throughout life ; in the second place, do not disparage the small and modest proportions of the inheritances which you received in the distribution, by buying and selling them to one another. (…)
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Jowett: perfect man
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroSocrates : That’s what it is, Hippias, to be a truly wise and perfect man ! For you are both in your private capacity able to earn much money from the young [281c] and to confer upon them still greater benefits than you receive, and in public affairs you are able to benefit your own state, as a man must who is to be not despised but held in high repute among the many. And yet, Hippias, what in the world is the reason why those men of old whose names are called great in respect to wisdom — (…)
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Jowett: violence
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroSoc. "And was that our agreement with you ?" the law would say ; "or were you to abide by the sentence of the State ?" And if I were to express astonishment at their saying this, the law would probably add : "Answer, Socrates, instead of opening your eyes : you are in the habit of asking and answering questions. Tell us what complaint you have to make against us which justifies you in attempting to destroy us and the State ? In the first place did we not bring you into existence ? Your (…)
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Jowett: good man
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroSocrates : I will tell you, in order that you may not share the impiety of the multitude : for there cannot conceivably be anything more impious or more to be guarded against than being mistaken in word and deed with regard to the gods, and after them, with regard to divine men ; you must take very great precaution, whenever you are about to [319a] blame or praise a man, so as not to speak incorrectly. For this reason you must learn to distinguish honest and dishonest men : for God feels (…)
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Jowett: violation
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroBut of beauty, I repeat again that we saw her there shining in company with the celestial forms ; and coming to earth we find her here too, shining in clearness through the clearest aperture of sense. For sight is the most piercing of our bodily senses ; though not by that is wisdom seen ; her loveliness would have been transporting if there had been a visible image of her, and the other ideas, if they had visible counterparts, would be equally lovely. But this is the privilege of beauty, (…)
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Jowett: evil man
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroAnd will not the temperate man do what is proper, both in relation to the gods and to men ; — for he would not be temperate if he did not ? Certainly he will do what is proper. In his relation to other men he will do what is just ; See and in his relation to the gods he will do what is holy ; and he who does what is just and holy must be just and holy ? Very true. And must he not be courageous ? for the duty of a temperate man is not to follow or to avoid what he ought not, but what he (…)
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Jowett: vicious
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de Castro[407b] "Whither haste ye, O men ? Yea, verily ye know not that ye are doing none of the things ye ought, seeing that ye spend your whole energy on wealth and the acquiring of it ; while as to your sons to whom ye will bequeath it, ye neglect to ensure that they shall understand how to use it justly, and ye find for them no teachers of justice, if so be that it is teachable — or if it be a matter of training and practice, instructors who can efficiently practice and train them — nor have ye (…)
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Jowett: man or woman
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroThere yet remains one difficulty which has been raised by you about the sons of good men. What is the reason why good men teach their sons the knowledge which is gained from teachers, and make them wise in that, but do nothing towards improving them in the virtues which distinguish themselves ? And here, Socrates, I will leave the apologue and resume the argument. Please to consider : Is there or is there not some one quality of which all the citizens must be partakers, if there is to be a (…)
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Jowett: vices
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroSoc. And as for the Muse of Tragedy, that solemn and august personage — what are her aspirations ? Is all her aim and desire only to give pleasure to the spectators, or does she fight against them and refuse to speak of their pleasant vices, and willingly proclaim in word and song truths welcome and unwelcome ? — which in your judgment is her character ? GORGIAS
Str. I mean that we speak of man, for example, under many names — that we attribute to him colours and forms and magnitudes and (…) -
Jowett: state of man
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroAt last, after a good deal of reflection, Zeus discovered a way. He said : "Methinks I have a plan which will humble their pride and improve their manners ; men shall continue to exist, but I will cut them in two and then they will be diminished in strength and increased in numbers ; this will have the advantage of making them more profitable to us. They shall walk upright on two legs, and if they continue insolent and will not be quiet, I will split them again and they shall hop about on a (…)
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Jowett: vice
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroSocrates : So vice is a thing that becomes a slave. ALCIBIADES I
Soc. And what from vice and injustice ? If you are not able to answer at once, ask yourself whither we go with the sick, and to whom we take them. GORGIAS
Soc. And was not punishment said by us to be a deliverance from the greatest of evils, which is vice ? GORGIAS
Soc. And justice punishes us, and makes us more just, and is the medicine of our vice ? GORGIAS
Pol. True. Soc. He, then, has the first place in the scale of (…) -
Jowett: wise man
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroSocrates : Then do you think it inevitable that he who has some knowledge about these things should also be a wise man, [145e] or shall we say he comes far short of it ? ALCIBIADES II
[366e] Socrates : But what of falsehoods about these same things ? And please answer this with the same splendid frankness as my previous questions, Hippias. If some one were to ask you how much three times seven hundred is, would you have the most power to tell falsehoods and always uniformly to say false (…) -
Jowett: vexation
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroSoc. I do not think, Hermogenes, that there is any great difficulty about them — edone is e onesis, the action which tends to advantage ; and the original form may be supposed to have been eone, but this has been altered by the insertion of the d. Lupe appears to be derived from the relaxation (luein) which the body feels when in sorrow ; ania (trouble) is the hindrance of motion (a and ienai) ; algedon (distress), if I am not mistaken, is a foreign word, which is derived from aleinos (…)
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Jowett: courageous man
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroAnd yet the courageous man and the coward alike go to meet that about which they are confident ; so that, in this point of view, the cowardly and the courageous go to meet the same things. PROTAGORAS
But does not the courageous man also go to meet the better, and pleasanter, and nobler ? PROTAGORAS
And the courageous man has no base fear or base confidence ? PROTAGORAS
La. I cannot understand what Nicias would be at, Socrates ; for he represents the courageous man as neither a (…) -
Jowett: perception
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroSocrates : Whew ! Our perception of what the beautiful is has fled away and gone, Hippias, since the appropriate has been found to be something other than the beautiful. GREATER HIPPIAS
Socrates : I will tell you what presents itself to me, if perhaps there may be some sense in it. [298d] For perhaps these matters of laws and customs might be shown to be not outside of the perception which we have through hearing and sight ; but let us stick to the statement that that which is pleasing (…) -
Jowett: mortal man
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroThose of us who have fathers or mothers must counsel them always to bear their calamity — if so be that such has befallen them — as cheerfully as possible, and not join in their lamentations ; for in sooth they will need no further cause of grief ; [247d] the present misfortune will provide grief in plenty. Rather should we mollify and assuage their sorrow by reminding them that in the greatest matters the gods have already hearkened unto their prayers. For they prayed not that their sons (…)
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Jowett: opinion
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroSocrates : And is every ophthalmia, in your opinion, a disease ? ALCIBIADES II
Socrates : I mean that, generally speaking, it rather looks as though the possession of the sciences as a whole, if it does not include possession of the science of the best, will in a few instances help, but in most will harm, the owner. Consider it this way : must it not be the case, in your opinion, that when we are about to do or say anything, we first suppose that we know, or do really know, the thing (…) -
Jowett: aboulia
1º de fevereiro, por Cardoso de CastroSoc. Doxa is either derived from dioxis (pursuit), and expresses the march of the soul in the pursuit of knowledge, or from the shooting of a bow (toxon) ; the latter is more likely, and is confirmed by oiesis (thinking), which is only oisis (moving), and implies the movement of the soul to the essential nature of each thing — just as boule (counsel) has to do with shooting (bole) ; and boulesthai (to wish) combines the notion of aiming and deliberating — all these words seem to follow doxa, (…)