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====== Espinoza (PFCPM:75) – fantasia corpórea ======

==== Português ====

II. Pelo nome de ideia entendo aquela forma de qualquer pensamento por cuja percepção imediata sou cônscio desse mesmo pensamento.

De tal maneira que eu nada possa exprimir com palavras, entendendo o que digo, sem que por isso mesmo seja certo estar em mim a ideia do que é significado com aquelas palavras. E assim, não chamo de ideias as meras imagens pintadas na fantasia; ou melhor, de modo algum as chamo aqui de ideias enquanto estão na fantasia corpórea, isto é, pintadas em alguma parte do cérebro, mas apenas enquanto informam a própria mente voltada para aquela parte do cérebro.

III. Por realidade objetiva da ideia entendo a entidade da coisa representada pela ideia enquanto está na ideia.

E do mesmo modo pode-se dizer perfeição objetiva, ou artifício objetivo, etc.; pois tudo que percebemos como estando nos objetos das ideias está objetivamente nas próprias ideias. 

==== Curley ====

D2: By the term idea I understand that form of each thought through  the immediate perception of which I am conscious of the thought itself.

So if I understand what I say, I cannot express anything in words, without its being certain from this that there is in me an idea of what is signified by those words.11 And so I do not call only images depicted in the fantasy ideas.  Indeed I do not here call them ideas at all, insofar as they are depicted in the corporeal fantasy, i.e., in some part of the brain, but only insofar as they give form to the mind itself which is directed toward that part of the brain.

D2: By the term idea I understand that form of each thought through  the immediate perception of which I am conscious of the thought itself.

So if I understand what I say, I cannot express anything in words, without its being certain from this that there is in me an idea of what is signified by those words.11 And so I do not call only images depicted in the fantasy ideas.  Indeed I do not here call them ideas at all, insofar as they are depicted in the corporeal fantasy, i.e., in some part of the brain, but only insofar as they give form to the mind itself which is directed toward that part of the brain.

 D3: By the objective reality of an idea I understand the being of the thing represented by the idea, insofar as it is in the idea.

In the same way, one can speak of objective perfection, or objective artifice, etc. For whatever we perceive as in the objects of the ideas is in the ideas  themselves objectively.